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(Host) I think people are more involved in scarcity-driven concerns.

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- Yes  - You know, more than ever!

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And abundance is the way to eliminate that. - Well, right, right.

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- Not only an abundance in resources

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but also knowledge: how to use that abundance.

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If you just produce an abundance and distribute that to people

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you'll [have] mass hedonism: a total collapse of the society.

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You must educate people to live with that.

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In other words, you have to tell people

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even during instruction, [for example] learning to fly an airplane:

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what you can't do, what your landing speed has to be.

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If you don't have a certain speed you will not rise off the ground.

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If you don't maintain the speed in landing, your craft will fall to the ground.

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These are laws, physical laws, and we must become aware

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of the physical laws that affect human behavior, our values, our lifestyle.

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- (Jacque) ...rates, going up like that and the amount of people needed

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to turn out a given amount of products.

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It's always less people and higher products, do you follow me?

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[J. Rifkin] said: "When production hits this,

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and the amount of people required hits that,

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when they cross, that's the end of the system."

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Has nothing to do with good men, bad men

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politics, corruption, fascism, free enterprise.

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All of these discussions about communism, socialism,

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free enterprise, fascism, become irrelevant in a society of an abundance

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where people have access to things. All those things fade out:

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labor unions, you just don't need that anymore.

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It just does not exist.

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- (Host) [In a] truly free society we would not have things like protectionism

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and nationalism and things like that.  -  (Jacque) OK.

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If abundance existed all over the world,

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all the water you want, all the food, growing all over the place,

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no one would stake out territories.

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You stake out territories because it promotes survival.

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People living on a desert can only have a tribe of a certain size

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because that desert region can't support more than 50 people.

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You have wandering nomads that wander with the animal migration,

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so if there's scarcity and new people come into that area,

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they say "You're moving in on my territory!"

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You know a lot of vegetarians actually believe

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that vegetarianism produces more amiable patterns of behavior.

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Actually, that's not true.

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Cows in the field have all the grass they want

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so they're not very aggressive. Any place you walk there's grass to chew on.

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They're not aggressive because there's an abundance;

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whereas herbivorous animals, carnivores,

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don't have as much abundance.

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They have to run after animals and hunt them down,

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and sometimes you don't make it. You're not always in great physical shape,

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so they have to be more aggressive.

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They have to be more aggressive to survive.

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It's the scarcity of food that generates that.

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Hunger generates the hunt for food, for animals.

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If you didn't have pains of hunger, there wouldn't be that.

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Years ago, primitive societies

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used soldiers to keep people in line, or police.

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Some inventor came up to the old landowner and he said:

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"I've got a cheaper way of doing that,

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that wouldn't require as many soldiers."

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The landowner said "What way is that?" He said "Well,

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I can project fire from my mouth; I have several things I can do

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and people would look at me in amazement and then listen to what I say."

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He says "I come from The One-On-High

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and that One-On-High can see you

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through a mud wall ten feet thick, no matter what you do.

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If you take anything that doesn't belong to you, he can see that.

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After you kick the bucket you're gonna burn eternally."

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That was a method for keeping people to behave

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though the king can kill anybody he didn't like:

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"Behead that son-of-a-bitch" or "get rid of that culture over there." They all did it;

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but "Thou shall not kill" was in that community,

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and a wife being obedient made it easier

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for otherwise women would protest their state of being.

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They had to pledge obedience to the old man, whatever he wanted,

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so the old man got his way. If a man worked for somebody

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he was not to remove anything that didn't belong to him.

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Stealing was a crime,

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so the man who conducted magic and did all the magic, controlled a lot of people.

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He was the priest in the early days, the soothsayer.

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Now the priest was bothered continuously by people.

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[They'd] come up and [say] "My son doesn't listen to me."

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"My daughter is disobedient" and he said: "Well..."

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He was so bothered by people that he made a stone statue.

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He said "Anytime you have any problem drop a half a buck off here

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and talk to the stone statue! Tell him all the problems you've got."

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Some of them did that, but they didn't like the conclusion,

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so they destroyed the stone statue.

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He made two: one with a smile and one with horns.

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He says "The bad one, you yell at, spit on, all that

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and the good one you thank for your state-of-being."

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These were forms, dead forms made of clay or stone,

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and people talked to them all day long. They didn't bother the priests at all.

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The priest was off somewhere doing something else.

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This is how all these icons came into being

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and all the laws and all the contributions.

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Jesus walked on water, men walk in space, on the Moon,

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so that aspect you can use; but he was not a deity.

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He was not another manifestation of God,

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nor were any of the great teachers.

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Great teachers were great compared to what was available at the time.

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The nearest thing to what you would call 'honesty' is science,

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the nearest thing, because the system itself checks things out constantly.

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You come up with an idea. They put it to test,

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and more so than any other system.

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Yes, technology makes mistakes, buildings collapse, bridges fall;

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but compared to any other system,

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it's by far the most outstanding system,

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and the only system that we know of that transports people around.

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Electrical power gives us refrigerators to keep food in storage.

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In other words, science and technology

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has given us and freed more people from hard toil and labor

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than any philosopher and do-gooder.

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Unfortunately, when people see Mother Teresa going around helping people,

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they can't grasp some agronomist working alone,

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increasing the agricultural yield by five times,

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who has fed people who could never of been fed

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that would have starved to death. They can't grasp that!

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They have to see. If you show normal people movies

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of thousands of children with swollen bellies,

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suffering, they would get a lump on their throat.

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If you want to raise money: one child

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crippled, with crutches, moving toward the camera

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and when he gets to the camera have him look up and have a tear run down.

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You can raise more money than showing 8 million people.

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They are pinheads! They are conditioned to utter simplicity.

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This is not condemning the human race. I'm condemning the value system,

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the indoctrinations that are given by the institutions of higher learning.

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They are not institutions of higher learning.

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They are detrimental in developing human beings

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who are what you would call conscious and aware

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of their surroundings and other people.

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